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		<title>Luckily for James Franco, it&apos;s Only Art if Someone Buys it</title>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> </em><em>What started out as a Gabbler interview with James Franco on his budding art career quickly progressed into something so post-post-modern, Derrida would have thrown himself into the abyss just for it to be over…</em></p>
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<p><strong>Q: Mr. Franco, thanks so much for meeting with <em>The Gabbler</em>.</strong></p>
<p>A: Thank you for having me. I hope you excuse my appearance – I was up all night undergoing The Process.</p>
<p><strong> Q: Is that why you’re not wearing any pants?</strong></p>
<p>A: Uh—<em>Shit.</em> Hold on. Sorry. I knew I was a little cold—Actually, no. Wait. It was on purpose! Yes! I was expressing myself. Acting. A performance. You see, an interview, its purpose is to strip the interviewee down by asking invasive, pointed questions. By baring all to you already, I have physically embodied the revealing nature of the intended interview process. Your questions leave me naked, exposed.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Are you sure you’re not just hungover?</strong></p>
<p>A: Being an artist—a true artist—is like being a priest or monk. One must rid themselves of all earthy temptations and distractions in order to focus on the higher tasks at hand. I must create. I cannot be sidetracked. I no longer drink, smoke, fuck, or do drugs. I don’t even laugh.</p>
<p><strong>Q: All right, but when you say “create,” how do you define the concept of creation when it comes to post-modern art, because—</strong></p>
<p>A: &#8211;WAIT! I have it.</p>
<p><strong>Q: What do you have?</strong></p>
<p>A: A new project.</p>
<p><strong>Q: That’s great. What does it entail?</strong></p>
<p>A: Have you ever wrapped yourself entirely in latex, been injected with a tranquilizer and subsequently been glued to a wall?</p>
<p><strong>Q: Uhh … nope. Can’t say that I have. </strong></p>
<p>A: Have you ever bathed in the congealed juices at the bottom of a dumpster?</p>
<p><strong>Q: Have you?</strong></p>
<p>A: Have you ever felt the feel of a flaccid penis flop against your cheek as you ran through the streets of Paris?</p>
<p><strong>Q: What?!</strong></p>
<p>A: You see, I have a vision. This interview process, it’s so invasive. So raw. But how do I capture that? How do I construct your aim to deconstruct?</p>
<p><strong>Q: Well, how do you normally incorporate the concept of deconstruction into your artwork?</strong></p>
<p>A: I—uh—I deconstruct what I’ve constructed.</p>
<p><strong> Q: Okay, well does Derrida’s position on the way a text – or in this case, I’ll speak more generally, <em>artistic endeavor</em> &#8211;  is always “incomplete” play a role in your work? How have his writings influenced you?</strong></p>
<p>A: Are you hungry?</p>
<p><strong> Q: Would you like to talk about something else? You just seemed keen to discuss your artistic process.</strong></p>
<p>A: To be honest, I don’t think you would understand.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Please, try me.</strong></p>
<p>A: It’s like this: Everything is art. Anything is art. I can make art, I can think art, I can shit out art, for chrissake.</p>
<p><strong> Q: Okay. Mr. Franco, how would you defend yourself against critics who say that your art is…not really art? That your main aim is to shock viewers, because you have a little too much money from that Spiderman franchise, and a little too much free time on your hands?</strong></p>
<p>A: Man, you are RAW. I mean it. I want you to take part in my latest artistic endeavor. I know I have those plastic baggies filled with that homeless dude’s piss lying around here somewhere….</p>
<p><strong>Q: Mr. Franco, I really don’t know if that’s something I’m up for. Let’s talk about intention—you’ve talked a lot about that when it came to your work with nonexistent art.</strong></p>
<p>A: Ha! Did you know that started out as a joke?</p>
<p><strong> Q: And now it’s serious?</strong></p>
<p>A: Well, I mean, yeah. If people agree to buy it, it’s art. Right?</p>
<p><strong> Q: That’s certainly one way to look at it. So, what inspires you? What people, images, concepts, and ideas prompt you to begin a new project?</strong></p>
<p>A: Basically, I’m all about trying to do what hasn’t been done. What people won’t do because they are too afraid, or too self-conscious, or worried that taking part will land them as a registered sex offender for the next seven years. <em>That’s </em>what my art is about.</p>
<p><strong> Q: But what does being a sex offender have to do with art? Unless you’re Nabokov, it must be a little hard to pull that off, right?</strong></p>
<p>A: I’m not a fucking communist, if that’s what you think.</p>
<p><strong> Q: No, he’s a –</strong></p>
<p>A: &#8211;I mean, capitalism sucks, too. Don’t get me wrong, I&#8217;m against that, too. I watch Michael Moore’s movies.</p>
<p><strong> Q: Okay, let’s try to wrap things up a bit. You wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street a few years ago that insisted your work on the daytime television show, <em>General Hospital</em>, was “performance art.” Why?</strong></p>
<p>A: This is when it gets really meta, so listen closely: I was performing a performance of my own artistic performance.</p>
<p><strong> Q: So, you believe the self is a performance?</strong></p>
<p>A: Dude, I was acting. I knew you wouldn’t understand.</p>
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